Just how far should parents go? When should kids be allowed to suffer the consequences of their actions? Assuming that they haven’t been brought up that way in the first place that is. Many kids learn before they become teenagers. Many learn during those years. And some it seems are never going to be allowed to learn..till it’s too late and they have to do prison time..or someone dies or something equally dire. At 19 a person who has two children of his own and is living in his own place should be allowed to take care of himself. And if he hasn’t been allowed to learn how by then..well he certainly won’t learn any younger. If having to pay his own fines will teach him not to do something that will eventually land him in jail..then for petes sake let him learn before it’s too danged late!